Wednesday, 19 April 2017

BEWARE - March for Science Edinburgh Facebook - FASCISTS


WARNING "March for Science - Edinburgh" Facebook group is run by censorious, anti-free speech, anti-civil liberties, anti-human rights, anti-academic freedom and therefore ANTI-SCIENCE moderators.

TO QUOTE FROM "March for Science - Edinburgh"

"Amanda Boyd
Hi Mods...I wonder if Peter Dow's post, below, shoud be removed? I'm all for free speech, but this is distinctly political, (if somewhat irrational), and therefore should not be promoted here? Cheers."
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Pamela Cameron
Agree. I think we do him a disservice by giving validity to his claims, which he seems to sincerely believe.
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"Maria Fernanda Torres
I decided to remove it after the post was reported and after reading this post. I didn't do it Initially as I believe everyone has the right to discuss, post and reply. He wasn't using any offensive language and he wasn't spamming. This group is meant to be inclusive and respectful of people's opinions, whether we agree or disagree with these, and the idea is to promote healthy discussions. Though not too much research is needed to have an idea of his speech, many of us are unfamiliarized with him and I (personally) was waiting for a discussion to develop and see if removing it was really necessary. Given the call for it, the decision was made."
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Peter Dow 17 April 23:32

I'm no Trump fan but the really dangerous threat to science and scientists in Scotland comes from the police state here which raids scientists' homes (well it did raid my Aberdeen home in 2014), seizes our equipment (my computer with all my science data) prosecutes and punishes us (£500 fine to be paid @ £20 a month) - all because the state in Scotland can do whatever it likes because there's no good head of state to stop the state running amok persecuting scientists if it wants to and it does want to whenever anyone, scientist or not, dares to use bad language, robust political rhetoric on social media (a few rhetorical political, republican, anti-Queen tweets) or published elsewhere.

So we need a good elected president who is pro-science HERE IN SCOTLAND, an elected head of state who will bring the state to heel, deliver the rule of law, guarantee civil liberties, legal human rights and academic freedom for scientists and other academics.

So it's good to have solidarity with American scientists battling against the anti-science Trump - but it would be not so good to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to scientists in struggle here in Scotland against the UK in Scotland fascist police state running amok persecuting anyone it likes including scientists doing our duty because there are in practice no legal limits here to the Queen's royalist, fascist police state.

There is no rule of law here - merely the dictatorship of some senior lawyers (which is different, honest) - so Scotland in the UK is run as a gangster police state but the "gangsters" are really just bad police officers and bad lawyers working for the procurator fiscal service or for the courts as judges. They can and do arrest, fine, jail anyone for the least controversial outspokenness.

I write as a scientist who feels like I have been persecuted for most of my life as a graduate (1982) scientist, since I finished my time as a Glasgow college lecturers, including being persecuted by science professors at Universities (Aberdeen's) who haven't hesitated to call on university managers to exclude me from the campus to exterminate my academic freedom - all because I asked some difficult questions (I was "disruptive" apparently)

I've unjustly spent time in jail or police cells - for not going for a psychiatric examination (2002) for typing comments online (2014, 2016), for simply doing my duty as a scientist and for speaking out a person of conscience doing my political duties.

It's not like I have any friends backing me up, though there was this nice and brave man Professor Jon Godwin, who did one time, which was nice.

http://peter-dow.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/scientists-for-freedom-of-expression-in.html

Few will stand with me but then again, can you blame anyone for not wanting to step into the firing line alongside me? Who would want to suffer the risk of being dragged down beside me into the hell of social exclusion and being criminalised for my beliefs?

Anyway, I am very happy to stand alongside the March For Science and I wish everyone on the march all the very best.

PS. if you'd like to nominate me for the Sakhorov Prize I'd appreciate that very much!

THANKS!

http://peter-dow.blogspot.co.uk/

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PS

Although I joined that "March for science - Edinburgh" Facebook group in good faith and gave it my initial support, now, in the light of my persecution at their moderator's hands, I have of course to warn about the group which clearly has no principled commitment to freedom.



So this is how academic freedom at our universities has been destroyed.

Someone, in the style of the above quotes complains that someone is "too political" or "disruptive" and a polite request is made to the university managers who make a polite request to the university lawyers who make a polite request to a Queen's judge who makes a court order banning you from the premises which if you defy you can be arrested for contempt of court and if you resist arrest the police can use whatever force they deem fit and you could be KILLED by the police while resisting arrest.

It starts with a whiny complaint about nothing much but it ENDS IN A DEATH THREAT by the state against the persecuted academic.

And there's no debating this abuse of power allowed either

If you dare to publish leaflets, comment on line, complaining about your exclusion the same lawyers go to court to get gagging orders and if you continue to publish, again you are accused of contempt of court and can face arrest and death while resisting arrest.

The people running the kingdom's universities in Scotland will stop at nothing to save the face of their authorities, to exterminate from "their" campus anyone who challenges their authorities.

Yes the professors and managers who run the kingdom's universities may be educated in their speciality - scientists, engineers, architects, divinity scholars, language experts and so on.

BUT these professors, managers, academics ARE BAD PEOPLE. MORALLY AND POLITICALLY, THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM FASCISTS.

So I find it DISTURBING in the extreme that these bad people are allowed any promoted position in Scotland's universities.

I don't mind them being students, but they do need to learn to be decent principled people first and foremost before being put in charge of anyone else.

We shouldn't have EVIL people managing anything so important as a university, but that's what I think the status quo in Scotland sadly is.

2 comments:

bawbagusmaximus said...

How is a science-specific Facebook page removing political comments unrelated to their science event any different to a political blogger removing comments unrelated to his politics? You can't have your cake then expect to eat someone elses...

To be fair the moderator sounded quite reasonable too, she left your post alone until there was consensus within their community. Seems to me this isn't censorship as much as keeping a conversation on topic.

Peter Dow said...

Firstly the the March for Science homepage defines political aims (which I support and therefore ought to be allowed to participate in).

"The March for Science is the first step of a global movement to defend the vital role science plays in our health, safety, economies, and governments.

It's time to get off the sidelines and make a difference.

Register to attend your local march

The March for Science champions robustly funded and publicly communicated science as a pillar of human freedom and prosperity. We unite as a diverse, nonpartisan group to call for science that upholds the common good and for political leaders and policy makers to enact evidence based policies in the public interest.

The March for Science is a celebration of science. It's not only about scientists and politicians; it is about the very real role that science plays in each of our lives and the need to respect and encourage research that gives us insight into the world.

Nevertheless, the march has generated a great deal of conversation around whether or not scientists should involve themselves in politics. In the face of an alarming trend toward discrediting scientific consensus and restricting scientific discovery, we might ask instead: can we afford not to speak out in its defense?

There is no Planet B. Join the #MarchForScience."


Likewise anyone who supports the political aims of Peter Dow's political defence blog - to defend my legal human rights against being cruelly violated by the police and courts in Aberdeen etc. - should be (and is) allowed by me to participate by making comments.

Clearly, someone not in support of the particular political aims - someone who wanted to attack the vital role science plays, against the aims of March for Science, someone who wanted to lock me up, against the aims of my political defence blog, shouldn't be expected to be welcomed and to have full privileges to participate in the same way as others who were genuine supporters of the stated aims.

It isn't "fair" to "sound reasonable" and then do something unreasonable, like delete a comment of and then ban a good member from a group.

The three persons I named - Boyd, Cameron and Torres - don't represent a community in accord with the aims of March for Science - they've not "defended human freedom" but crushed my human freedom - so they represent only themselves who have acted unfairly to subvert the group's stated aims.

This is a case of the fascist tail wagging the dog. Torres should not have allowed herself to be been bullied into an act of censorship by whiny complaints from Boyd and Cameron.

It reminds me of how in 1933, German President Hindenburg was bullied into appointing Hitler as German Chancellor.

Failing to stand up to bullies is how freedom is lost and holocausts begin.